纳吉教授的欢迎辞
Welcome message from Professor Gregory Nagy
Welcome, and thank you for signing up for the HarvardX course "The Ancient Greek Hero," starting on March 13!
This course is intended especially for those who have never read any ancient Greek literature – in translation or otherwise – and who have no background in ancient Greek history or art. For those of you who find yourselves in this category – and I know you are the vast majority – my goal is to support you, encourage you, and to cheer you on. For those of you who are familiar with some or even most aspects of Greek literature, my warm welcome is also extended to you all.
I am passionately interested in tapping into the "Socratic method" in introducing you to the beautiful complexities of Greek civilization. As you will see, the historical figure Socrates is an integral part of our course. The mission of Socrates, as he saw it, was to get people talking about things that really matter to them and to their lives. In his dialogues with people, as dramatized by his student, Plato, his primary goal was to get the conversation going, and to take it to deeper and deeper levels, while trying never to have the last word himself. His dialogues with students and rivals were thus open-ended, leaving room for unlimited further discussion. Even as I write this, I just figured out what Plato's Socrates really means by using the word theōriā, which becomes our word theory. When you look at my e-book, called The Ancient Greek Hero in 24 Hours, you will find the relevant discussion in Hour 23.
You notice I just used the expression "figure out." A lot of what we will be doing is "figuring out" together the ideas of the ancient Greeks about heroes and what it means to be a hero.
To start the open-ended dialogue that will bond us to each other, I hope that you will write to me and to the Board of Readers about your reading experiences – both in the past and in the future. When I say I say "future," I am really thinking of this question: what do you and/or your friends hope to get out of your reading experience in this course? When you do write, which I hope will be right away, right now, I hope you will not feel self-conscious about contacting me and my colleagues on the Board of Readers. After all, the Board and I are readers, just like you. We are all readers.
作者: caiseshamo0716 时间: 2013-4-2 19:42
注册了，但是没有看到有视频讲座，还是我不会用？
作者: caiseshamo0716 时间: 2013-4-2 21:11
明白了，得去注册邮箱确认之后才能下载视频
作者: silver 时间: 2013-4-4 00:09 标题: [FROM PROF. NAGY] Important message about assessments and certificates
The whole team and I have noticed that some of you have worries about the first two exercises. We are getting the impression that some of you are starting to fear that these exercises may hurt your chances at earning a certificate for participating.
But there is nothing to fear.
For me and for the whole team, and we think also for you, the most important thing is what you learn from this course, not what "grade" you get — and we are not going to give grades, only certificates.
What all of us - including the teachers of the course - need to learn and to keep on learning is how to "read out" of Greek literature, not "read into" it. We also want you to figure out how to do it, and learn about the way Greeks thought about heroes.
Our experience is that it takes time to sort out all the aspects of this not-so-simple task, and what we are interested in above all is what you end up understanding, in how you do on the last exercises.
If you don't do well at the beginning on the exercises, for us it means that you have something to learn — and that's what we expect. How foolish would it be on our part if we made your receiving a certificate depend on your success in the first exercises! (NOTE: If you have done well on them, we are sure that you still have a lot more to learn, however — don't worry!) But the first few exercises are essentially for practice, for you to learn what you don't know. That can be painful, but then again, you wouldn't be enrolled in this class unless you wanted to learn something that you don't already know.
What we are really interested in is that you show improvement in your assessment scores over the time that this course runs, in other words, that we see evidence that you are learning to do what we are trying to teach you to do. Naturally, that also will depend on how well we are doing with the teaching part, and we are working hard on that!
So here's what it comes down to: if you do all of the assessment exercises, and you do poorly at the beginning but better at the end, you will get a certificate. If you do very well on the assessment exercises and can sustain that level of success, you will also get a certificate. Here's another way to put it: any perceptible improvement upward from 0 on a scale of 0 to 2 gets you a certificate, and starting at 1 on a scale of 0 to 2 and not going all the way down to 0 at the end also gets you a certificate.
Lastly, if you have signed up just for the experience, you are eligible for a certificate of attendance even if you don't do the exercises. If you do finish the exercises as we have described them, you are eligible for a certificate of mastery. Everyone gets a certificate.
Sincerely, Greg
PS This is not a course in which we tell you the questions and their answers and in which you are obliged to memorize and repeat those answers to us for a "good grade" (even if you don't really believe that they are good answers or good questions). That's not the learning model we are using, though it may well be a fine learning model for other subjects.
作者: silver 时间: 2013-4-4 00:12
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原帖由 caiseshamo0716 于 2013-4-2 19:42 发表 
注册了，但是没有看到有视频讲座，还是我不会用？
网页版：http://weibo.com/HeroesX
手机版：http://weibo.cn/HeroesX
作者: silver 时间: 2013-4-4 00:52 标题: several student groups related to the course
MARCH 8, 2013
We are so excited that several student groups related to the course are already popping up on various social media platforms. We would like to thank these students for their enthusiasm and share the links to those accounts as well as to the Facebook, Google+, and Twitter accounts our staff has created for the course. We would like to use our social media accounts to distribute supplementary content and news to student accounts and groups. I hope we can all work together to create thriving intellectual communities that extend beyond the boundaries of this course. But please note, all participation on any social media forum is 100% optional. All the required content will be available via the course website.
Below are the links we have found to date:
Staff-created Accounts:
The Ancient Greek Hero on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TheAncientGreekHero
The Ancient Greek Hero on Google+: https://plus.google.com/communities/107397536757277586726
The Ancient Greek Hero on Twitter: https://twitter.com/AncGreekHero
Student-created accounts (general):
Facebook (admin Praveen Kumar): https://www.facebook.com/groups/579037368779644/
Facebook (admin Niranjan Phuyal): http://www.facebook.com/groups/CB22x/
Google+ (moderator Nick Garnett): https://plus.google.com/communities/110965042286932197791
Student-created, Language-based groups:
Portuguese-language study group on Facebook (admin: Fernanda Lopes de Oliveira): https://www.facebook.com/groups/TheAncientGreekHeroPT/
Spanish-language study group (admin: Yurena Gonzalez): https://www.facebook.com/groups/191057684372354/
We would also encourage and support your self organization around specific topics, goals, or authors, such as Performance, Writing, or Homer. In fact, members of our team have expertise in a variety of areas and would be willing to facilitate discussion around related interest groups. For instance, Kevin McGrath, the Vice Chair of our Board of Readers, has spent many years studying Indic epic and can help us think about how the Iliad can often illuminate what we read in the Mahabharata, and vice-versa.
If you form a group as the course progresses, please let us know and we will help share the news with the larger community. Or, if you prefer to stay small, we can still be sure to share our news with you.
Wishing you all the best,
Claudia Filos
Editor of Content and Social Media for The Ancient Greek Hero
作者: silver 时间: 2013-4-4 01:41 标题: Course syllabus
CB22x: The Ancient Greek Hero
HarvardX, Spring 2013
Professor: Gregory Nagy, Francis Jones Professor of Classical Greek Literature andProfessor of Comparative Literature at Harvard University, and Director of Harvard's Center for Hellenic Studies.
Board of Readers: The teaching staff for this course is led by the Chair of the Board of Readers, Dr. Leonard Muellner, Professor of Classical Studies at Brandeis University and Director of IT and Publications at Harvard University's Center for Hellenic Studies, and the Vice Chair of the Board of Readers, Dr. Kevin McGrath, Associate in Sanskrit and Indian Studies at Harvard University. The course's Readers and Editors are listed on the CB22x "About" page.
A Basic Statement About Requirements For This Course.
There are no prerequisites for the course. No special competence in any skill or in any language is required. The only requirement is academic honesty. If you enroll in our course, we expect you to agree to the academic honesty guidelines as found on the course website. Collaboration is encouraged in our course, and if you collaborate honestly, there is nothing for you to worry about. Plagiarism is different from collaboration: to plagiarize is to take credit only for yourself and to hide the credit that others deserve. Plagiarism is hostile to a sense of academic community, and it is antithetical to the moral code of this course and to the moral code of any academic community. There must be a zero-tolerance policy for plagiarism. Our moral code is, simply, to learn together as a community.
A Basic Statement About the Ideals of this Course.
What does it mean, to be human? This course takes a close look at the human condition, as viewed through the lens of classical Greek civilization; the basic organizing principle is an objective study of a model of humanity, the Hero.
By the time the course comes to an end, students will have learned that there are different definitions of the "hero" in different historical times and places. In the end, though, the one true "hero" of this course will be the logos or "word" of logical reasoning, as activated by Socratic dialogue. The logos of dialogue in this course will require careful thinking, realized in close reading and reflective writing. The "last word" about this logos comes from Plato's memories of words spoken in dialogue by Socrates during the last days of his life, which will be read towards the very end of the course. Such a "last word," shaped by a deep understanding of the concept of the hero in all its varieties throughout the history of Greek civilization, will become the "latest word" for students who earnestly engage in dialogue, by way of writing as well as reading, with heroic expressions of the human condition. This course is driven by a sequence of dialogues that lead to such an engagement, guiding the attentive reader through many of the major works of the ancient Greek Classics.
What Will We Read?
We will be reading, in English translation, some of the basic works of classical Greek literature. Concepts of the hero dominate two of the core forms of this literature: epic and tragedy. In this course, there are two epics to be read, which are the Homeric Iliad and Odyssey, and seven tragedies, which are Aeschylus's Oresteia trilogy, Sophocles' two Oedipus dramas, and Euripides' Hippolytus and The Bacchic Women. Also included in the course readings are selections from the dialogue On Heroes by an eminent thinker in the "second sophistic" movement, Philostratus (early 3rd century C.E.).
These classical works are linked to two historical realities in the ancient Greek world: (1) heroes were worshipped in cult, and (2) the focal point of this worship was the veneration of the hero's body at the site of his or her tomb.
Concepts of the anti-hero, on the other hand, assert themselves in alternative forms of Greek literature. In the readings of this course, such forms include two dialogues of Plato, the Apology and the Phaedo (both centering on the last days of Socrates).
In these readings, anti-heroic models emerge. One of these is the "word" of Socratic dialogue, which figures as a radical alternative to the venerated body of the cult hero. Also, for the sake of comparing the ancient sense of "hero" with reinterpretations in the post-ancient era, other alternatives to the classical hero will be explored, centering on the short story Don Juan, by the German "romantic" author E. T. A. Hoffmann.
Required Reading: All required texts can be accessed for free on the course website.
Sourcebook of Original Greek Texts Translated into English. Unless otherwise indicated, all assigned readings will come from this text, which is referred to within the course and in this syllabus as the Sourcebook. The Sourcebook contains: Homer's Iliad and Odyssey; Proclus' summaries of the Epic Cycle; Hesiod's Theogony and Works and Days; selections from Theognis of Megara; Alcman's Partheneion ("The Maidens' Song"); the poems of Sappho; Pindar's Pythian 8; Aeschylus' Oresteia Trilogy (Agamemnon, Libation-Bearers, and Eumenides); Sophocles' Oedipus at Colonus and Oedipus Tyrannos ("Oedipus Rex"); Euripides' Hippolytus and Bacchae; selections from Herodotus' Histories; Plato's Apology and Phaedo; selections from Pausanias and Philostratus' On Heroes, and selected explanatory articles and introductions.
The Ancient Greek Hero in 24 Hours, by Gregory Nagy. This e-book, referred to within the course and in this syllabus as h24h, contains 24 chapters. Each chapter is called an "Hour," because each one of the "Hours" is keyed to each one of the 24 dialogues that make up this course. The book is designed to provide you with close readings and analysis of some of the most important parts of the relevant primary sources found in the Sourcebook. These "Hours" take the place of formal "lectures" in this course, and the close readings in these "Hours" are meant to be part of the "homework" that prepares you for each class session.
Recommended Reading:
For further background on and interpretation of the required reading, two books by Professor Nagy are available for free online: The Best of the Achaeans: Concepts of the Hero in Archaic Greek Poetry and Pindar's Homer: The Lyric Possession of an Epic Past. These books supply background for some, but hardly all, of the topics to be presented in the course.
The following works are in the Sourcebook but are not required except for those sections addressed in h24h: the Homeric Hymn to Demeter and Hymn to Aphrodite; Aeschylus' Seven Against Thebes; Euripides' Herakles; selections from Aristotle; and Sophocles' Antigone.
Important Dates:
Course Start Date: March 13, 2013
Course End Date: June 26, 2013
Course Schedule:
As noted above, rather than being structured week-by-week, this course is broken up into 24 "hours," each of which is comprised of one video dialogue, and which track with the 24 chapters of h24h.
Listed below is the reading to be completed for each hour of the course. The first dialogue will introduce the Iliad and the first "Hour" of h24h. Beginning with the second dialogue, you should complete that dialogue's assigned reading and the corresponding "Hour" in h24h. Unless otherwise specified, all readings can be found in the Ancient Greek Hero Sourcebook, available on the course website. For an explanation of fast reading, slow reading, and close reading, please see the "Advice for Students" tab above.
Hour 0
Read "Introduction to the Book" and "Introduction to Homeric Poetry" in The Ancient Greek Hero in 24 Hours (h24h).
Slow reading in h24h: Hour 0 Texts A through H (= 8 passages)
Fast reading in Sourcebook: Iliad scroll I
Hour 1
Slow reading in h24h: Hour 1 Texts A through C (= 3 passages), concentrating on Text C
Fast reading in Sourcebook: Iliad scroll I
Hour 2
Slow reading in h24h: Hour 2 Texts A through E (= 5 passages), concentrating on Text E
Fast reading in Sourcebook: Iliad scrolls III, VI, and IX
Hour 3
Slow reading in h24h: Hour 3 Texts A through F (= 6 passages), concentrating on Text D
Fast reading in Sourcebook: Iliad scrolls XV (306–404, 592-746), XVI, XVII (1-69, 188-232, 366-455, 673-751)
Hour 4
Slow reading in h24h: Hour 4 Texts A through J (= 10 passages), concentrating on Text G
Fast reading in Sourcebook: Iliad scrolls XVIII, XIX, XX, XXI (1-135, 227-390)
Hour 5
Slow reading in h24h: Hour 5 Texts A through M (= 13 passages), concentrating on Texts A and B; these readings include Sappho's Song 1 (Text F), Song 16 (Text H), and Song 31 (Text E)
Fast reading in Sourcebook: Iliad scrolls XXII, XXIII, XXIV
Hour 6
Slow reading in h24h: Hour 6 Texts A through G (= 7 passages), concentrating on Text A
Fast reading in Sourcebook: Iliad scrolls I (repeat), II, III (repeat), IV, V, VI (repeat), VII, VIII
Hour 7
Slow reading in h24h: Hour 7 Texts A through G (= 7 passages), concentrating on Text A
"Reading" in h24h: Images A1, B1, A2, B2, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, Q
Fast reading in Sourcebook: Iliad scrolls IX (repeat), X, XI, XII, XIII, XIV, XV, XVI (repeat)
Hour 8
Slow reading in h24h: Hour 8 Texts A through N (= 14 passages), concentrating on Text A; these readings include selections from the Homeric Hymn to Demeter (Texts C and G)
Fast reading in Sourcebook: Iliad scrolls XVII, XVIII (repeat), XIX, XX (repeat), XXI, XXII (repeat), XXIII (repeat), XXIV (repeat)
Hour 9
Slow reading in h24h: Hour 9 Texts A through J (= 10 passages), concentrating on Text A
Fast reading in Sourcebook: Odyssey scrolls i-viii.
Hour 10
Slow reading in h24h: Hour 10 Texts A through E (= 5 passages), concentrating on Text A
Fast reading in Sourcebook: Odyssey scrolls ix-xvi
Hour 11
Slow reading in h24h: Hour 11 Texts A through R (= 18 passages), concentrating on Text A
Fast reading in Sourcebook: Odyssey scrolls xvii-xxiv
Hour 12
Slow reading in h24h: Hour 12 Texts A through M (= 13 passages), concentrating on Text A
Fast reading in Sourcebook: Hesiod Theogony lines 1–115; Works & Days lines 1–286
Hour 13
Slow reading in h24h: Hour 13 Texts A through L (= 12 passages), concentrating on Text A
Fast reading in Sourcebook: Herodotus Histories Scroll 1.1–91 and Scroll 7
Hour 14
Slow reading in h24h: Hour 14 Texts A through Q (= 19 passages), concentrating on Text A
Fast reading in Sourcebook: Philostratus Hērōikos
Hour 15
Slow reading in h24h: Hour 15 Texts A through M (= 13 passages), concentrating on Text A
Fast reading in Sourcebook: Herodotus Histories Scrolls 8-9
Hour 16
Slow reading in h24h: Hour 16 Texts A through G (= 7 passages), concentrating on Text A
Fast reading in Sourcebook: Aeschylus Agamemnon
Hour 17
Slow reading in h24h: Hour 17 Texts A through H (= 8 passages), concentrating on Text A
Fast reading in Sourcebook: Aeschylus Libation-Bearers and Eumenides
Hour 18
Slow reading in h24h: Hour 18 Texts A through K (11 passages), concentrating on Text A
Fast reading in Sourcebook: Sophocles Oedipus at Colonus
Hour 19
Slow reading in h24h: Hour 19 Texts A through H (= 8 passages), concentrating on Text A
Fast reading in Sourcebook: Sophocles Oedipus Tyrannus
Hour 20
Slow reading in h24h: Hour 20 Texts A through L (= 12 passages), concentrating on Text A
Fast reading in Sourcebook: Euripides Hippolytus
Hour 21
Slow reading in h24h: Hour 21 Texts A through I (= 9 passages), concentrating on Text A
Fast reading in Sourcebook: Euripides Bacchae
Hour 22
Slow reading in h24h: Hour 22 Texts A1-A6, B, C, D (= 9 passages), concentrating on Text A
Fast reading in Sourcebook: Plato Apology of Socrates
Hour 23
Slow reading in h24h: Hour 23 Texts A through H (= 8 passages), concentrating on Text A
Fast reading in Sourcebook: Plato Phaedo
Hour 24
Slow reading in h24h: Hour 24 Texts A through J (= 10 passages), concentrating on Text A
Fast reading in Sourcebook: none
Components of Assessment and Evaluation:
Students will be evaluated on assessment performance and participation. Assessments will be conducted each "hour" of the course. These will consist of quizzes on the reading (names, places, who is speaking to whom, etc.), as well as the application of principles and concepts central to the course.
Because this course deals chiefly with concepts, rather than names, dates, or other terms that require rote memorization, the hourly quizzes are designed to be a review of the material covered in the preceding Hour of the course. They are intended to be progress checks rather than stumbling blocks, and thus they should not be difficult any student who has done the required reading and carefully viewed the dialogue video. Additionally, the interactive and conceptual nature of the course means that quality of participation, not quantity, will matter most for each student's experience and evaluation alike. More detail on assessment, evaluation, and certificate requirements will be provided soon.
作者: silver 时间: 2013-4-4 01:48 标题: 课程大纲
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作者: silver 时间: 2013-4-4 02:03 标题: 纳吉教授给学生们的建议(PDF版)
【哈佛在线课程：古希腊英雄】
纳吉教授给学生们的建议
Advice for Students from Prof. Nagy
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作者: silver 时间: 2013-4-4 02:10 标题: 课程进度：最新公告
[FROM STAFF] IMPORTANT TIMELINE UPDATE
ClaudiaFilos
6 days ago
Through the generous cooperation of our colleagues at edX and HarvardX and through the continued advocacy of Professors Gregory Nagy and Leonard Muellner, we have been able to negotiate a timeline that better promotes our ideals for this learning experience:
Updated Timeline
Hour 3 will be posted Monday, April 1
Hour 4 will be posted Monday, April 8
Hour 5 will be posted Monday, April 15
Hour 6 will be posted Thursday, April 18
This timeline provides a gentle introduction that allows us to focus more of our time together on developing the slow reading skills and deep engagement with the texts necessary for making mental connections and "systematic thinking".
Best, Claudia, Editor of Content and Social Media
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大家可能错过了前三个课时，但不要紧，从第4个课时（4月8日）跟上，回头再补习前3个课时即可。
作者: 英古阿格 时间: 2013-4-4 09:50
支持！
作者: silver 时间: 2013-4-4 11:33 标题: 论坛上的童鞋谁去注册了？
跟帖说一声哈，有福利哦~~
作者: Robot 时间: 2013-4-5 03:20
要跟上这门课程确实有一定难度。
毕竟咱们知道的时候已经错过了前面的 3讲，加上导论就是4讲。
不过，纳吉教授已经年过七旬（他是1942年生人），这门课程由他亲自主讲对我们来说也当是“时不再来”的吧。。。
目前是一个缺乏大师的时代，如果我们还能跟上趟，在这两三个月内格外辛苦也是值得的。
注册之后看了看，这门课程还是比较专业的。但是大家如果不是冲结业证书而去，我想参与其间总是会有收获的。
比如讲，我们专修民间文学，如果跟上这门课程就能很好地理解什么是“英雄叙事”，在比较研究的视野中多少还是会深化我们对英雄叙事的阐释。。。
登录之后觉得来自世界各地的学生都有不同的取向，但我们如果参与其间能否贡献一些什么呢？
我想还是中国史诗（或许英雄叙事）的多样性吧？
个人认为：大家不必去纠缠自己的古典学基础，“参与”二字可能更为重要。
毕竟不论任何一个时代都是需要故事讲述的，“英雄”或“英雄叙事”的根基所在吧？
纳吉教授的课程就在于解释何谓“英雄”，何谓今天的人类（价值取向）？
感兴趣的同学就去注册吧，我们也不是为了一纸证书。
再啰嗦一句：
去年参加了国际史诗峰会，觉得纳吉老先生真是很“可耐”，他跟平常的古典学家不一样，是有人文情怀的。
作者: silver 时间: 2013-4-5 21:05 标题: 课程跟进：
今天哈佛那边发来信息。
注册该课程的部分中国同学（境外留学生）已经发起将课程视频的字幕转换为中文。
由于哈佛和麻省理工的edX尚无推出中文的前例，这一努力可能要等课程结束之后方能实现。
大家目前还是努力跟进每个课时的英文教学吧，也算练练英语。。。
作者: silver 时间: 2013-4-5 21:32 标题: #哈佛云端教室：古希腊英雄#
大家留意哈：
美国时间4月8日推出第4个课时的教学内容：Updated Timeline：Hour 4 will be posted Monday, April 8。详情请跟踪HarvardX的课程信息。http://t.cn/zTyF9GM （需要注册才能看到的哈）
作者: silver 时间: 2013-4-5 21:34 标题: #哈佛云端教室：古希腊英雄# 【课程回溯 2013年2月7日】
February 7, 2013
Welcome to the first edX offering of CB22x: The Ancient Greek Hero! We trust you will find this introduction (or reintroduction) to the timeless classics of Greek oral and literary tradition both engaging and rewarding.
In the coming days, several resources will be made available to you here on the course website. These include a detailed Syllabus, an interactive Discussion Forum, and the two textbooks required for the course, both of which will be provided to you in electronic format free of charge.
Additionally, Professor Nagy has posted an important document in which he details the material covered in "The Ancient Greek Hero," and offers advice on how to get the most out of your experience in the course. This letter of advice and encouragement is available under the tab labeled "Advice for Students" at the top of the page. The information in this document will help clarify the assigments listed on the syllabus, while also introducing you to concepts and techniques used in this highly comparative survey of classical Greek literature.
More information will be posted soon. Until then, welcome once again to CB22x! We're very glad you're joining us!
–The HeroesX Staff
作者: silver 时间: 2013-4-5 21:41 标题: #哈佛云端教室：古希腊英雄# 【课程回溯 2013年2月14日】
FEBRUARY 14, 2013
The forums are now open!
In order to facilitate meaningful course discussion, students will be assigned to 1,000-person cohorts, each of which is named after an ancient Greek hero. These groups will include not only new students, but also alumni and Teaching Fellows who have assisted Prof. Nagy over the last 30 years that this course has been offered at Harvard.
Your cohort will have its own discussion forum, which can be accessed here. Prof. Nagy has already posted a welcome message, and we hope you will take a few moments to join him in discussion.
Once again, welcome to "The Ancient Greek Hero!"
All the best,
Claudia Filos
Editor of Content and Social Media for The Ancient Greek Hero
作者: silver 时间: 2013-4-5 22:14 标题: #哈佛云端教室：古希腊英雄# 【课程回溯 2013年2月27日】
FEBRUARY 27, 2013
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The CB22x team hard at work on "The Ancient Greek Hero."
作者: silver 时间: 2013-4-5 22:15 标题: 回复 21# 的帖子
跟格里格在一起备课的是俺的大哥，耶。。。
不过，让俺更留意的是那个地毯，opps...
作者: silver 时间: 2013-4-5 22:24 标题: #哈佛云端教室：古希腊英雄# 【课程回溯 2013年2月28日】
FEBRUARY 28, 2013
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Welcome to students from all over the world! The student body of CB22x "The Ancient Greek Hero" currently includes enrollees from over 150 countries. The heat map above shows where you and your fellow students hail from, and in what numbers, as of the end of February.
作者: silver 时间: 2013-4-5 22:28 标题: #哈佛云端教室：古希腊英雄# 【课程回溯 2013年3月3日】
March 3, 2013
The textbooks will be available soon!
Please accept our apologies for the delay in making The Ancient Greek Hero in 24 Hours and the Sourcebook of Ancient Greek Texts in English Translation available on the course website. As we've noted in the forums, these texts are being revised and updated specifically for your use.
These texts should be available before the end of this week. Once posted, they will be accessible from the primary navigation bar at the top of the page.
Thank you very much for your patience!
--CB22x Staff
作者: silver 时间: 2013-4-5 22:32 标题: #哈佛云端教室：古希腊英雄# 【课程回溯 2013年3月7日】
MARCH 7, 2013
Thank you so much for your beautiful responses to my first post on the course discussion board! My team and I have been moved by the breadth of your interests, your kind words in support of each other, and your enthusiasm for learning. Our community currently brings together over twenty thousand individuals from all over the world of every age and occupation. At least one of us is a high school student, and one a fearless learner in his ninth decade. We are artists and engineers from Australia and Brooklyn, New York. Some of us are nervous and some are eager. Regardless, in a few short days we will begin our adventure together.
Since many of you have expressed a desire to start reading, we have put together a brief list of scholarship, videos, and resources related to our work. The course has been designed for readers with absolutely no previous experience in the subject area, so this is entirely optional. I am simply sharing supplementary material for those of you who are ready to begin thinking and reading about topics related to ancient Greek poetics.
Most importantly, I want to share two brief videos clips. The first clip once again considers Nietzsche and the art of slow reading. The second presents some thoughts about understanding Homeric poetry.
We hope these prove helpful, and we look forward to sharing more with you in the days to come.
All the best,
Gregory Nagy
作者: silver 时间: 2013-4-5 22:36 标题: #哈佛云端教室：古希腊英雄# 【课程回溯 2013年3月8日】
MARCH 8, 2013
We are so excited that several student groups related to the course are already popping up on various social media platforms. We would like to thank these students for their enthusiasm and share the links to those accounts as well as to the Facebook, Google+, and Twitter accounts our staff has created for the course. We would like to use our social media accounts to distribute supplementary content and news to student accounts and groups. I hope we can all work together to create thriving intellectual communities that extend beyond the boundaries of this course. But please note, all participation on any social media forum is 100% optional. All the required content will be available via the course website.
Below are the links we have found to date:
Staff-created Accounts:
The Ancient Greek Hero on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TheAncientGreekHero
The Ancient Greek Hero on Google+: https://plus.google.com/communities/107397536757277586726
The Ancient Greek Hero on Twitter: https://twitter.com/AncGreekHero
Student-created accounts (general):
Facebook (admin Praveen Kumar): https://www.facebook.com/groups/579037368779644/
Facebook (admin Niranjan Phuyal): http://www.facebook.com/groups/CB22x/
Google+ (moderator Nick Garnett): https://plus.google.com/communities/110965042286932197791
Student-created, Language-based groups:
Portuguese-language study group on Facebook (admin: Fernanda Lopes de Oliveira): https://www.facebook.com/groups/TheAncientGreekHeroPT/
Spanish-language study group (admin: Yurena Gonzalez): https://www.facebook.com/groups/191057684372354/
We would also encourage and support your self organization around specific topics, goals, or authors, such as Performance, Writing, or Homer. In fact, members of our team have expertise in a variety of areas and would be willing to facilitate discussion around related interest groups. For instance, Kevin McGrath, the Vice Chair of our Board of Readers, has spent many years studying Indic epic and can help us think about how the Iliad can often illuminate what we read in the Mahabharata, and vice-versa.
If you form a group as the course progresses, please let us know and we will help share the news with the larger community. Or, if you prefer to stay small, we can still be sure to share our news with you.
Wishing you all the best,
Claudia Filos
Editor of Content and Social Media for The Ancient Greek Hero
作者: silver 时间: 2013-4-5 22:43 标题: #哈佛云端教室：古希腊英雄# 【课程回溯 2013年3月11日】
March 11, 2013
SYLLABUS CHANGE
Please not that there has been a change to the course Syllabus. Hour 0 and Hour 1 will now be presented separately, with Hour 0 being scheduled for release on March 13 (day one of the course).
The assignments for the first two class sessions are as follows:
Hour 0
Read "Introduction to the Book" and "Introduction to Homeric Poetry" in The Ancient Greek Hero in 24 Hours (h24h).
Slow reading in h24h: Hour 0 Texts A through H (= 8 passages)
Fast reading in the Sourcebook: Iliad scroll I
Hour 1
Slow reading in h24h: Hour 1 Texts A through C (= 3 passages), concentrating on Text C
Fast reading in the Sourcebook: Iliad scroll I
作者: Robot 时间: 2013-4-5 22:51 标题: #哈佛云端教室：古希腊英雄# 【课程回溯 2013年3月12日】
March 12, 2013
A MESSAGE ABOUT THE COHORTS
Dear participants,
The teaching staff of this course wants it to be a human and humane experience for everyone involved, and also, to the extent that individual participants wish, a social experience that fosters communities of learning around its subject, the ancient Greek hero.
Last night, unfortunately, something happened that was contrary to both of those ideals of ours. Without warning or explanation, many thousands of participants were suddenly moved out of the cohort that they had been part of and in which they had been joining discussion and into another forum.
What happened was this: the software team tried to fix an error that had placed several thousands of you in one forum (Briseis) and the rest in much smaller groups. Their thinking was that the course had not yet started, so that there was no risk. Big mistake.
We need to and are addressing the communication breakdown that caused this to happen, but we also want you to understand two things about our course.
First, we want to have the forums divided into cohorts of about 1000 students so that the staff of readers and mentors can be responsive to you and personally interact with as many of you as possible during the course. If we just had one giant forum, as other HarvardX and edX courses do, that would be next to impossible. The idea is also to make it possible for those who are less willing to engage in online conversation to feel more comfortable about doing so in a relatively smaller group. We don't know if this will work, but we definitely want to try.
Secondly, we need to let you know that we are all -- you as participants and we as staff members -- experimental subjects in this course. Even though it has been taught over many years on various platforms, the course has never been done on a scale like this. We are in adventure mode, and there will be bumps in the road as we and the software mature and develop. This is definitely exciting, but it can also produce breakdowns like this one. For instance, we can anticipate that when the course actually launches tomorrow morning at 5 am EDT, there may be problems with the servers, and the edX site may be unavailable at times. We hope that doesn't happen, and we are doing our best to be proactive and will try to warn you about such problems before they happen, but there will be problems like this, of that we can be sure, from time to time.
We dearly hope you can keep your patience with us as we proceed.
All best wishes,
Greg Nagy and Lenny Muellner
作者: Robot 时间: 2013-4-5 22:53
俺来搭把手，虽然不是专门研究史诗传统的人。希望大家都能帮忙。
或者通过您认为适当的方式。。。
作者: silver 时间: 2013-4-5 22:58 标题: #哈佛云端教室：古希腊英雄# 【课程回溯 2013年3月13日】
March 13, 2013
WELCOME TO CB22x, 'THE ANCIENT GREEK HERO'
The course is live as of 5:00am EDT on March 13, 2013. You can find the first installment of CB22x, entitled Hour 0, under the Courseware tab above.
The textbooks for the course are now available here on the website, free of charge. They are located at the far right of the main navigation menu at the top of the page. Additionally, an update to the syllabus was made shortly before launch. Please scroll down on this page to see a post about that update, or click the Syllabus tab above.
Once again, welcome to 'The Ancient Greek Hero.' We're so glad you're joining us!
--CB22x Course Team
作者: silver 时间: 2013-4-5 22:59 标题: 回复 29# 的帖子
谢谢机器人Robot。。。
作者: silver 时间: 2013-4-6 03:13 标题: #哈佛云端教室：古希腊英雄# 【课程回溯 2013年3月12日】
MARCH 12, 2013
Welcome to Day 1 of CB22x 'The Ancient Greek Hero'!
We're delighted you've chosen to join us on this journey. Below is some important information about the course:
- The textbooks, The Ancient Greek Hero in 24 Hours and the Sourcebook of Ancient Greek Texts, are now available! They can be found under the "H24H" and "Sourcebook" tabs in the main navigation bar at the top of the page.
- The dialogue videos for Hour 0 have been posted! You can access them under the "Courseware" tab in the main navigation bar. For this first session, you are asked to read "Introduction to the Book" and "Introduction to Homeric Poetry" (= Hour 0) in h24h and to begin a fast-reading of Iliad scroll I. All reading assignments for Hours 0 through 24 are available in the course Syllabus.
- Beginning on Monday, March 18, two Hours of the course will be released per week (one on Monday, and one on Thursday). We strongly recommend completing the reading assignments for each Hour before watching the videos.
- The first Assessments will accompany Hour 1. These will be made up of brief Question sets and lengthier Text Annotation exercises. Both are designed to promote engagement with the texts and concepts we are studying in this course. An explanation of how to negotiate the Annotation exercises will be available on the "Course Info" page prior to the release of Hour 1.
As always, further announcements will be posted to the "Course Info" page. We will be happy to answer questions in the course discussion forums . Once again, thank you for being part of this grand adventure!
Sincerely,
CB22x Course Staff
Special Note:The support of friends and family can be helpful in succeeding in online courses. HarvardX would like to make you aware of Course Hero, a program that allows you to select a friend or family member to be your supporter and encourage you to reach your highest potential in this course. Click here to identify a friend or family member to be your 'Course Hero'.
作者: silver 时间: 2013-4-6 03:28 标题: #哈佛云端教室：古希腊英雄# 【课程回溯 2013年3月17日】
MARCH 17, 2013
Important Note on the Courseware Video Player
It's come to our attention through the class discussion boards that many participants may not be seeing all of the course videos. For example, Hour 0 contains 8 videos, and Hour 1 has 11 videos. The linear layout of the content within sections, shown in the diagram below, can be tricky, so it's important that you take special care to watch, read, or complete everything on each page.
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作者: silver 时间: 2013-4-6 03:33 标题: #哈佛云端教室：古希腊英雄# 【课程回溯 2013年3月24日】
MARCH 24, 2013ACTIVITIES FOR HOUR 2
(available at March 25 at 5:00am EDT)
Reading Assignments
- Slow reading in h24h: Hour 2 Texts A through E (= 5 passages), concentrating on Text E
- Fast reading in Sourcebook: Iliad scrolls III, VI, and IX
Videos
(11 total)
- Introduction to Hour 2 (one video, on this page)
- Hour 2, Texts A-B (one video)
- Hour 2, Text C (one video)
- Hour 2, Text D (one video)
- Oral Poetry: A Living Tradition (two videos)
- Hour 2, Text E (two videos)
- Blade Runner, Replicants, and Total Recall (three videos)
Assessments
(2 sets of 4)
- Hour 2 Question Set (four questions)
- Hour 2 Close Reading Exercise (four questions)
作者: silver 时间: 2013-4-6 03:35 标题: #哈佛云端教室：古希腊英雄# 【课程回溯 2013年3月24日】
MARCH 24, 2013
The Ancient Greek Hero in 24 Hours is now available for download in epub form. It can be accessed at this link .
作者: silver 时间: 2013-4-6 03:37 标题: #哈佛云端教室：古希腊英雄# 【课程回溯 2013年3月31日】
MARCH 31, 2013
ACTIVITIES FOR HOUR 3 (available April 1 at 5:00am EDT)
Hour 3
Slow reading in h24h: Hour 3 Texts A through F (= 6 passages), concentrating on Text D
Fast reading in Sourcebook: Iliad scrolls XV (306–404, 592-746), XVI, XVII (1-69, 188-232, 366-455, 673-751) Videos (9 total)
Hour 3: Achilles and the Poetics of Lament (one video, on this page)
A Man of Constant Sorrow: Hour 3 Text A (one video)
Achilles and Penthesileia the Amazon: Hour 3, Text B (one video)
Singing Laments (one video)
A Conventional Gesture in Women's Laments: Hour 3, Text C (one video)
The Laments of Ch'unhyang (one video)
The First Lament of Andromache: Hour 3, Text D (one video)
What Achilles Sang: Hour 3, Text E (one video)
The Song of Kleopatra: Hour 3, Text F (one video)
Assessments
Hour 3 Question Set (four questions)
Hour 3 Close Reading Exercise (four two-part questions plus one discussion question)
作者: silver 时间: 2013-4-6 05:21 标题: [FROM STAFF] The Core Vocabulary, a glossary of transliterated terms
Posted by Claudia Filos
18 days ago
Dear participants,
In the next day or two we will post the Core Vocabulary, a glossary of terms which are transliterated from the ancient Greek into English and which are tracked in the Sourcebook. This is a very important tool both for our current learning project and for your future reading. It is not a tool for memorizing vocabulary. Rather, it is meant to help us figure out how these key terms work in their poetic contexts. Furthermore, as we begin to explore the way these Core Vocabulary terms relate to each other, we will begin to understand the use of ancient Greek diction as an exquisite, perfected system of communication.
We will post an announcement on the Course Info Page when it goes up. Stay tuned!
Best, Claudia
[edit: and here's the link https://www.edx.org/courses/HarvardX/CB22x/2013_Spring/htmlbook/0/]
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作者: caiseshamo0716 时间: 2013-4-6 08:04
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原帖由 silver 于 2013-4-5 21:05 发表
今天哈佛那边发来信息。
注册该课程的部分中国同学（境外留学生）已经发起将课程视频的字幕转换为中文。
由于哈佛和麻省理工的edX尚无推出中文的前例，这一努力可能要等课程结束之后方能实现。
大家目前还是努力跟 ...
还是很好的，如果有没听懂的地方可以回头再看中文的，嘿嘿
作者: Robot 时间: 2013-4-7 13:44 标题: #哈佛云端教室：古希腊英雄#【课程进度】 大家留意哈：
美国时间4月8日推出第4个课时的教学内容：Updated Timeline：Hour 4 will be posted Monday, April 8。
详情请跟踪HarvardX CB22x 的课程信息。http://t.cn/zTyF9GM （需要注册才能看到的哈）
作者: Robot 时间: 2013-4-8 11:09 标题: #哈佛云端教室：古希腊英雄# 【课程跟进】
第4个课时的教学内容将于美国东部时间4月8日上午10点在线提供。Hour 4 will be available at 10:00am Eastern Time on Monday, April 8.
当前美国东部时间是夏令时EDT（3月3日至11月3日），跟北京的时差是13个小时。也就是说，今晚23:00那边更新课程内容。
网址：http://t.cn/zTyF9GM （需要注册，登录后才能看到的哈）。
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这是一门“慕课”，你知道什么是“慕课”吗？
MOOC：高等教育的危机或古希腊式的复兴?
http://www.chinafolklore.org/forum/viewthread.php?tid=34286
作者: 英古阿格 时间: 2013-4-8 11:21
学习中。
作者: 小牧童 时间: 2013-4-8 12:38
我这里网络很不给力，打不开，~~~~(>_<)~~~~
作者: silver 时间: 2013-4-9 19:46 标题: HarvardX_HeroesX_GNagy
#哈佛云端教室：古希腊英雄#
【第4课时，美国东部时间 4月8日上午10点上线】 ACTIVITIES FOR HOUR 4 (available April 8 at 10:00am EDT)
作者: Robot 时间: 2013-4-13 22:58 标题: [From Prof Nagy] Discussion Question for Hour 4
GregoryNagy
5 days ago
After submission of your responses to the Question Set and Close Reading Exercise, here is a general question that I would like for you to think about and to discuss with each other and with me in our online Discussion. Consider in Hour 4 Text A (Pindar Isthmian 8.56-62) the lament of the Muses about the death of Achilles, which is parallel to what we read in Hour 4 Text H about the lament of the Nereids (= the daughters of the Old One of the Sea, led by Thetis) about the death of Achilles (Odyssey xxiv 58-64). In Text H, we see that both the Muses and the Nereids (led by Thetis) lament Achilles at his funeral. So how does the lament of Thetis in Text G (Iliad XVIII 54-64), which is the text that we have just analyzed, preview the laments that both the Muses and the Nereids (led by Thetis) will sing at the funeral of Achilles?
作者: Robot 时间: 2013-4-13 23:01 标题: [From Prof. Muellner] Discussing Assessments
ClaudiaFilos
4 days ago
In an effort to promote learning and interaction around the assessments, we are creating a new thread for each question set and close reading exercise. We will open the discussion thread for a given Hour's assessments when the next Hour has been posted. So since Hour 4 was just released yesterday, we have posted six discussion threads, one for each of the assessments in Hours 1-3. Within those threads you can discuss answers openly, so participants who haven't yet done the assessments shouldn't read those threads. Likewise, since new participants are free to enroll from now through late June, please do not "give away" answers on other threads.
The purpose of these threads is to generate further intellectual community among our members and to promote discussion of content. If you have technical issues with a question set or close reading exercise set, please post those concerns in the general Discussion.
Leonard Muellner, Chair of the Board of Readers
Claudia Filos, Editor of Content and Social Media
作者: Robot 时间: 2013-4-16 01:42 标题: #哈佛云端教室：古希腊英雄#【课程延迟更新通告：4月14日】
APRIL 14, 2013
As mentioned previously, Hours 1 through 5 are intended as an introduction to slow reading and to the concepts introduced in the early stages of the course. Because Hour 5 contains the most focus passages to date (13), because many participants have joined us since the course began, and because the pace will quicken beginning with hour 6, we will be releasing the videos for hour 5 next week (April 22).
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